Guys. he won. you lost (general rant)

"bob and john" (bobandjohn) 01/20/2017 at 13:07 • Filed to: None

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fucking deal with it holy shit. there was not this much whining when Obama won.

I hope trump does extremely well. You know why? Because hoping he will crash and burn is like saying you hope the guy flying your plane crashes it and dies.

guess what, you are on the plane too. You better freaking hope he does well.

we now return to our regularly scheduled motorcycle content.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:09

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I dont hope he crashes and burns, I KNOW he’ll crash and burn

bob and john > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/20/2017 at 13:10

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then you better hope he does well, because your screwed otherwise.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:10

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Obama didn’t brag about sexually assaulting women. The main complaint about Obama seemed to be that he’s black.

yamahog > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:12

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Aren’t you Canadian?

That might explain why you don’t seem to recall the protests to Obama’s election:

We’re on a plane with a pilot who has demonstrated zero desire or capacity to even learn how to fly a plane, it’s understandable to look for parachutes.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:12

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Nah I’ll go down with the ship. I did my part and voted against him and lost. Not my fault people are stupid.

TheHondaBro > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:12

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there was not this much whining when Obama won.

Yes. Yes there was.

Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:12

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Says the guy who’s not on the plane...

HammerheadFistpunch > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:13

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A better analogy would be that hoping he crashes and burns is like hoping that the much more qualified co-pilot will take command when the prominent captain is found to be wholly incompetent. This is a thing I would DESPERATELY hope for if I were on that plane.

bob and john > Bman76 (hates WS6 hoods, is on his phone and has 4 burners now) 01/20/2017 at 13:13

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no, i’m in the glider right behind you.

canada isnt THAT far apart from you (as much as I hate to admit it) so w/e happens to you is somehow going to affect me.

Sir Halffast > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:14

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This is the proper response. Keep fighting, keep angry. Unless he learns how to fly (he won’t), we’re all fucked.

bob and john > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:15

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yea, and? w/e happens to you, it going to affect us in someway shape form or another. I hate to admit it, but thats the story.

also, by all means, look for the chute. but dont hope the guy is going to crash to begin with.

Chariotoflove > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:15

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I concur. This is just common sense. Now, maybe some people need a cathartic rant, and that’s fine to a certain extent. But, there are plenty of people who think that this president needs to be thwarted at every turn because evil or whatever. That shit is counter productive whether it comes from democrats, republicans, whatever. I believe in loyal opposition, not this burn the house down crap that seems to be in vogue these days.

For Sweden > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:15

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The first Trump-O’Leary summit should be interesting.

Soon all world leaders will be former game show hosts

chaozbandit > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:15

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But what kind of bike would Trudeau ride?

kiwi_matt > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/20/2017 at 13:15

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people are standing at the ready to impeach him. At least Pence won’t start WW3.

yamahog > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:16

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And that might explain why you don’t seem to recall the protests to Obama’s election.

smobgirl > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:16

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Are we only supposed to be excellent to each other about topics we agree on?

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > HammerheadFistpunch 01/20/2017 at 13:16

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Believe it or not, The Donald doesn’t worry me much. He’s an idiot, but I get the feeling he’ll just get bored when he finds out how hard the job is. That’s what I’m hoping for anyway. Pence on the other hand is an actual fundie demagogue who believes that the world is 6000 years old and you can electrocute the gay out of people. That guy scares me.

bob and john > chaozbandit 01/20/2017 at 13:16

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IDk, he has a thing for classics

jimz > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:16

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fucking deal with it holy shit. there was not this much whining when Obama won.

You guys don’t get Fox News up there, do you? ;)

oh, motorcycle content:

:P

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:16

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Yes but Obama knew what he was doing, had a desire to hold the office, and didn’t brag about sexually assaulting women.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > chaozbandit 01/20/2017 at 13:17

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Something very expensive and French, probably.

kiwi_matt > For Sweden 01/20/2017 at 13:17

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For Sweden > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:18

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The best part of 2017 is the Canadian Hot Takes

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bob and john > jimz 01/20/2017 at 13:18

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that poor bike...

For Sweden > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:18

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Why are Americans so terrible at protesting

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > kiwi_matt 01/20/2017 at 13:18

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Pence is more likely to believe that he’s doing god’s work by ushering in the apocalypse.

Wheelerguy > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:19

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One: we ain’t actually gonna see those new MotoGP bikes until Losail. Bummer.

Two: I worry more about the kind of people his administration has enabled. More than Drumpf, the people he appoints, his allies, and his supporters, are just as destructive a force as any nuclear warhead the US has. And I fear for the people in other countries who look up to these people and see them as idols worth emulating, and can harness the power of the internet and an ability to tap into human nature to rally behind ideas their idols espouse. We’ve reached critical mass, and I have a bad feeling that, unlike the past, those who let it happen will completely get away with it.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:19

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And still is

yamahog > For Sweden 01/20/2017 at 13:20

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Because we’re taught that it’s unpatriotic and shameful, like premarital sex!

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > For Sweden 01/20/2017 at 13:20

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Because being the best, we have less to protest.

Bad Idea Hat > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:21

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there was not this much whining when Obama won. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

bob and john > For Sweden 01/20/2017 at 13:21

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two business men with game shows.

compared to how fucked the liberals made ontario (seriously, they raised the electric and insurance to be 5x anywhere else in the country) i’m all for O’leary.

For Sweden > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:21

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But isn’t it patriotic again, as of an hour and a half ago? Or is it the other way around?

HammerheadFistpunch > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:21

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He’s right wing, no doubt, but he’s not reckless and crazy. I’ll take the nutty pilot over the incompetent pilot thanks.

yamahog > For Sweden 01/20/2017 at 13:21

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Depends on who is reporting it

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:22

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I remember a certain person also claiming that he had investigators in Hawaii who couldn’t believe what they were finding.

For Sweden > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:22

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RIP Canada fighting ISIS

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:22

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He seems like a vintage Ducati kinda guy.

Jcarr > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:22

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BREAKING: Folks who don’t agree with [insert administration/party here] whine.

BigBlock440 > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:24

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That was caught on video anyway.

ttyymmnn > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:24

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This. I’ve said it all along that I’m not afraid of Trump, I’m afraid of the GOP and their agenda. I’m a historian at heart, but I’m not interested in going back to the 1950s, even if the cars were cool.

bob and john > Wheelerguy 01/20/2017 at 13:24

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1: then whats that on the MotoGP home page?

2: the only guy who does worry me is Pence. the rest I just laughed at.

bob and john > The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock 01/20/2017 at 13:25

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seems a little too odd-ball for him. more like a vintage honda.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > HammerheadFistpunch 01/20/2017 at 13:25

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Most of our presidents have been incompetent. 

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:28

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but a old Honda seems to plain for him. Maybe 2 stroke 3 pot Kawasaki be a good middle ground.

TheHondaBro > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:28

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And “choosing” to be gay.

NinetyQ > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:28

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We all hope he does extremely well in that he doesn’t let the entire country crash and burn. It’s more than many of us are worried that if he succeeds in the things he wants to do it will bring harm to the country. Conflating the two by using the “he’s our pilot and we’re all on the plane so shut up and support him” analogy is not helpful.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/20/2017 at 13:28

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My sentiment exactly. I don’t want him to totally fuck up, but really it’s going to happen. The dude is fucking clueless. It’s like letting chickens, literal live chickens run a wall street brokerage house. They are just going to walk around pecking at stuff without a clue to how their actions affect anything beyond the initial peck.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:29

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There wasn’t as much bellyaching after Obama won because his election didn’t lead to good, decent people being terrified for their well-being. The only ones afraid of him being in office were nasty bigots.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:29

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The dude is fucking clueless. It’s like letting chickens, literal live chickens run a wall street brokerage house. They are just going to walk around pecking at stuff without a clue to how their actions affect anything beyond the initial peck.

TheHondaBro > HammerheadFistpunch 01/20/2017 at 13:29

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I agree with both Sideways and you. Pence is a monster, but he’s certainly more qualified than Tangerine Scream.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/20/2017 at 13:30

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On a lighter note. Scooby Nibby 2018?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:30

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We’re on a plane with a pilot who only became a pilot because it makes him look cool.

TheHondaBro > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:30

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canada isnt THAT far apart from you

By that logic, countries that are farther away from the US will be less affected by the President of the United States?

Gamecat235 > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:31

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won*

*sort of, with help from a system that is the literal analog to affirmative action for states of smaller stature. As opposed to an actual democracy, which at a national level we have never had.

Also, irony has been noted. “Guys guys guys! Just let it go and stop talking about it and drawing attention to it!” To what? The thing I’m talking about!

But I’m still bitter about the lack of electoral reform that has taken place. (Real electoral reform, not this utter bullshit about taking people off the voting rolls).

/rant

TheHondaBro > jimz 01/20/2017 at 13:32

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Dijon mustard is a luxury.

Sir Halffast > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 13:33

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How about this - protesting policies is patriotic. Protesting people, not so much. Much of the protests against Obama were focused on his race and presumed lack-of citizenship, not on substantive policies (see: Tea Party circa 2009, photos above). Those protests were not patriotic, IMO. Same goes for the Code Pink protests in 2006 and 2007 that focused on Bush himself, as opposed to poor policy decisions. (That’s bipartisanship, folks! I hate ’em all equally!).

Protests in front of the Supreme Court, protesting various decisions (Citizens United, gay marriage, etc.), or protesting ACA or other policies at the White House and Capitol, all fine and good. Those were and are expressions of difference of opinion, even if I don’t agree with you. In the same way, the current protests aren’t about Trump per se, but about the culture and policies that he brings with him. Repealing ACA, building a wall, gutting voting rights laws, etc. are all things worth protesting.

TheHondaBro > Bad Idea Hat 01/20/2017 at 13:33

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Let’s not forget our new Tangerine in Chief complained for FIVE years about that.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 01/20/2017 at 13:33

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HondaBro/SaveTheIntegras 2020

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:34

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Anything within ICBM range is equally affected by POTUS

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:36

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I’ll see you in Canadian hell then. It’s probably all in metric and have floppy heads.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/20/2017 at 13:36

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But it’s Scoob’s turn.

Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 01/20/2017 at 13:37

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DOWN WITH SCOOB

bob and john > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:37

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to some extend.

with who do you have the largest border in the world, trade almost 20% of your total exports with, share laws, etc etc etc with?

mexico, also neighboors with the US. i dont need to go there do I?

mean while, the poor bastard on the other side of the world in spain prroooobably has less to worry about then either of us.

Spridget > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:38

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“He won, you lost”

He won on a technicality; however, I don’t necessarily hope he fails. While I would like for Trump’s (albeit unrealistic) plan to bring back jobs and punish corporations for choosing money over people to succeed, I hope his Obamacare plan, tax plan, immigration plan, anti-Muslim ideals, military goals, nuclear weapons plan, etc fail, because the success of those goals goes against my beliefs and what’s good for the country. If Trump succeeds, then he can cause the country to crash and burn, and we could go down with him.  

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:38

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Thanks Hannity for that insight.

TheHondaBro > Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras 01/20/2017 at 13:38

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DEPORT SCOOB BACK TO NOO YAWK

Nerd-Vol > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:39

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Why does it matter if we hope he fails? I won’t be able to influence anything until mid term elections.

That’s like me saying I hope New England loses. I’m not on the field and I don’t influence anything, so what difference does it make?

Sir Halffast > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:39

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You’re right that whatever happens to us is going to affect everyone around us. However, lack of stability in policy and personality will affect everyone else as well. Our new president has no stable notion of policy, and suffers from severe personality deficits that are going to make your lives hell as long as he’s in office. He may do “well” by some standards, but as long as his attention span (and his opinions on key matters) have a half-life of mere hours, everyone will suffer. Not just here, but in North America, the Western Hemisphere, and every other continent. Don’t chastise us for not hoping for your version of the “best” when we’ve already been watching and listening to his version of the “best” for the last three months.

When someone exhibits a clear authoritarian bent, you better fucking listen to what they say and take them at their word. If you think he’s kidding, or think he’ll moderate in office, you do so at your own peril.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:39

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These people actually believe in the rapture, and are looking forward to it....

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 01/20/2017 at 13:40

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Isn’t that why most people become pilots? Member Top Gun?

bob and john > Gamecat235 01/20/2017 at 13:41

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yea, i get the irony too. i’m more bitching about ppl bitching. (hey, at least I dont do this often)

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:44

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Dijon mustard is unpatriotic because it’s French. Ironically, French’s is patriotic because it’s not.

bob and john > Sir Halffast 01/20/2017 at 13:46

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I dont think he will moderate in office, but I think the office will moderate HIM.

it one thing to say: BAN EVERYONE OF THIS and quite another to actually put in place.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:46

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No, I never watched it.

RutRut > Gamecat235 01/20/2017 at 13:47

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The “won*” shtick is getting old, this isn’t the first time the popular vote didn’t correlate with the electoral voting but nobody went crazy about it before. There is also the fact that up until late December there was still a possibility of faithless electors (which the system is also designed for) to change the results of the election for the good of the country.

We are also not a democracy, we are a republic which is clearly reflected in the electoral college structure. If you don’t like the electoral college people could have campaigned to revise it before, not just after your preferred candidate lost.

yamahog > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 13:49

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DANGER ZONE

Wheelerguy > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:49

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‘16 bikes with ‘17 liveries.

Sir Halffast > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:50

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The office moderates people capable of being moderated. He’s shown throughout the last two years that he is not capable of being moderated. Don’t forget he has a complicit congress for at least two years, and right now there aren’t nearly enough Republicans willing to stand up to him, and far too many Democrats that will sign off on just enough to be a problem. He will absolutely try.

Take him at his word.

TheHondaBro > Nerd-Vol 01/20/2017 at 13:50

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Mitch McConnell (Who may or may not be an actual turtle) has said that he hoped Obama would fail.

So yeah, a lot lot lot of hypocrisy.

DipodomysDeserti > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 13:54

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A better analogy would be you’re on the tarmac and you realize the pilot is hooped up on uppers and has never flown a plane before. Then he says he’s going to start throwing Mexican passengers out once you’re in the air. In that case, yeah, I hope he never gets the plane off the ground.

I’m apolitical and don’t like any of these guys, but I just wanted to correct your analogy. Now to the moto content:

Bad Idea Hat > TheHondaBro 01/20/2017 at 13:56

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That’s about 3 1/2 years longer than people expect Trump’s presidency to last.

bob and john > DipodomysDeserti 01/20/2017 at 13:58

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....is...

is that fucking Putin on a harley trike...

DipodomysDeserti > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 14:02

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It had some sik fast n furious underglows too.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 14:02

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Well shit I’ve electrocuted myself plenty of times and I’m still bi. Fuck.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To 01/20/2017 at 14:02

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I know, right? You’d think I’d be straight with all of the electrical work I do.

Gamecat235 > RutRut 01/20/2017 at 14:03

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I’ve ranted about the electoral college since I learned about it many many many years ago in high school.

I’ve talked about it, but finding a manner or method to change it does not appear to be in the cards because “tradition” is sacrosanct. (Don’t even get me started on the 2000 election)

It is as I described, a system for making a population unequal in regard to their electoral power.

Also, the hope on my end was that we would see the constitutionality of the blatantly unconstitutional faithless elector laws finally brought to light in court, but no, we marched on like sheep to the abattoir because resistance and questioning tradition are hard.

bob and john > DipodomysDeserti 01/20/2017 at 14:07

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I’ve seen it all now.

wonder why they didnt do red/white and blue, FOR MAMA RUSSIA

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > ttyymmnn 01/20/2017 at 14:09

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It seems like this is the view of most history geeks I know. I’m so sick of the hyperbole at the moment.

RutRut > Gamecat235 01/20/2017 at 14:11

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I’m on the other side, I appreciate that a population dense state or region can’t just determine the election. I view it as less about the individual votes, but by using the electoral college we can balance the power of different regions. My interests and critical issues may not be the same in Michigan as they are for someone in California.

unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie 01/20/2017 at 14:11

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And the French were our allies in the Revolutionary war.

area man > yamahog 01/20/2017 at 14:12

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I’m curious how old he is too, because I feel like there are a lot of early-20s Trump supporters who honestly don’t know how it was in 2008/9 because they were in high school, so they get to act aghast at the resistance from people.

DipodomysDeserti > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 14:19

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He’ll probably be in Sturgis this year now that Trump is president. I heard a story yesterday about how that nationalist Russian motorcycle gang want to do a ride through America.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > unclevanos (Ovaltine Jenkins) 01/20/2017 at 14:25

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Like most French “victories,” only possible because America.

TorqueToYield > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 14:26

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“just get over it” the rallying cry of boot lickers everywhere.

Protest and public skewering of elected officials is American like apple pie.

BunkyTheMelon > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 14:28

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2009 inauguration turnout vs today’s. Says a lot.

Sam > HammerheadFistpunch 01/20/2017 at 14:50

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In this case, the copilot wants to throw all the LGBT passengers off the plane (by past history, not speculation of what the pilot might do). So no, the co-pilot isn’t an option.

Svart Smart, traded in his Smart > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 14:56

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Aren’t you from Canada?

TheBimmerGuyWhoNowOwnsAChevy > bob and john 01/20/2017 at 14:58

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*seed title, stars immediately*